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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby bassman » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:08 pm

Hi yrvin,
It does seem that your DB25 data cable is the problem. Before you buy a replacement, make it has all 25 pins connected (some comms cables don't) and there are no twisted pairs in it. Not all cables like this are the same.

On another note;
You can't use the inserts for what you want, it cuts off the signal.
You need to connect to one of the Tape Out cards using the Appropriate cable. If you don't have one or don't want to buy one, you can use AUX 1-8 outputs to your audio interface and send the required channel signal to the AUX out corresponding to the output to your interface you want. It only gives you 8 outs for recording for now.
Ideally you'll need to get the DB25 to (whatever you audio interface has) cable for each group of 8 Tape outs you have.
I think you said you only have one Tape out? That only gives you 8 outputs, so using the Aux sends would be the same. You can move the card to Tape Out 1-8 if you prefer.
I hope this helps?
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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby Phil.c » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:03 am

Also check that there are no bent over pins....this can happen!
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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby yrvin » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:31 pm

Hey, today i checked all 25-pins of data cable with multimeter and all pins in cable is fine. So i checked all pins in motherboard. Them is fine too. Maybe problem is in motherboard, i don't know (If this is true then it's very very bad). I'll try to pull everything out of the motherboard, clean and insert it back. I don't know will help it but i can't do something other without special help.

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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby yrvin » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:16 pm

Hi. Yesterday I did that i wrote earlier. But this didn't help. Also i pulled out the midi card from CPU. Maybe problem is in the desk. I think that trouble is in the desk's console data connector. I'll try remove the bottom and check it internally.




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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby yrvin » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:20 pm

Hi to all. I have not written for a very long time, as I tried to solve my problem. The main trouble is that there is still a problem with the remote control. I think my CPU-unit can no longer be repaired. And in my country (I'm from Russia) there is no place where are engaged in such repairs. Also a cooler has recently flown from my processor because the plastic mount has broken. I also took the desk control to check all the connections there. But there all is alright. My multimeter helped me. I really want to sell it all. But i can't because CPU-unit damaged. I wanna to replace this CPU-unit with another third-party computer. Then I want to ask: What computer do I need? What should be in it? And if someone wants to buy the my desk without a CPU-Unit, then he is ready to sell it. We will agree on the price.

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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby Phil.c » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:00 am

The CPU is no ordinary computer as far as I know the only thing that will replace it is another d8b CPU, as for the desk, not too easy to sell it on it's own!
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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby arjepsen » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:14 am

Actually, part of the cpu-unit is a regular pc - however, the operating system (MackieOS) is specifically tailored to the hardware they put in it. People have tried to use other (newer) hardware, but it fails, since the OS checks for this specific hardware, and only contains drivers for that.
If someone would be able to reverse engineer the OS, it could be possible to make it run under windows, and then we could use regular modern day pc's instead of ye-olde-cpu-unit.
However, noone has done so yet. Probably because it's too time-consuming to rewrite it.

short version:
Unless you're a hardcore programmer that really wants to rewrite this OS to run under windows, you have to use the exact hardware that the OS supports.
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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby Phil.c » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:18 am

That's what I meant :)
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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby arjepsen » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:03 am

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Re: Help! New user D8B

Postby Y-my-R » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:01 am

One thing that DOES give a bad D8B CPU, but otherwise intact console a new life, is adding a ProBox.

For use with the ProBox, the console only needs to get power from the CPU part of the system. Then you can use your D8B like a 24 channel MIDI controller. Just like getting a "Mackie Control Universal" and two "Mackie Control Extenders".

If that's not useful to you, yrvin, then maybe it would be to whoever you would sell your D8B to. You could try to sell it with that argument ;)

So, it's not "useless" in it's current state. Personally, I'd probably get a ProBox myself, and use the D8B as a controller, while taking my time to figure out what is wrong that prevents you from using your D8B as a mixer.

Maybe that's not what you were looking for... but I use my D8Bs as MIDI controllers (via ProBox), AND as digital mixers. But I think I'd still keep at least one of them, if they'd only work as a MIDI controller :)
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