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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby munkustrap » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:42 pm

Hi
I hope to finalize the HUI this year. Basically it is all implemented without any compiling (so for sure a lot of issues to fix).
Hopefully I can start in two weeks with that. At the Moment I build the proboxes, but only a few are left, then the preorder list is done.

Ask here for your issue, I will help as much as I can.

best regrads
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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby p2h » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:51 am

Hey Munk, ok--that was good news on the HUI, don't forget Im trying to get that probox too...would that be something that would be an extra upgrade (probox to HUI) or totally separate? I'm asking just in case it would be better to wait on the HUI version, sorry for the newbie kinda of question.
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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby munkustrap » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:39 pm

Hi
It will be a new probox Version that handles All 3 protocols.
Users that have the probox already can update it For free.
All proboxes that will be sent after the hui release will have the new Version.
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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby p2h » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:09 am

Let's keep it moving...to finally working; I had a friend of mine check the fuses and such and the problem he ran into of course , is power related: it appears that the CPU is not sending all of the necessary power to the big cable; next problem is the LM317 and 337 parts are the culprits. I only found 1 part around town...is it possible to just replace that "linear board" ?
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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby munkustrap » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:23 pm

That means also +-16Volt power is broken?.
If you have +-16volts you do not have to change the
Lm 317,337. If you have to, purchase them on mouser.
What about the 12 Volts are they working?
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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby p2h » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:30 am

Hey Munk, NO, we didn't get the +-16 volts to register...so I'm ordering the parts from mouser; thnx for the tip.
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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby munkustrap » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:57 am

Ok great. One failure is found.

IMPORTANT NOTE !!!!

- order 2-3 of each (if you detroy one, then you have spare parts)
- the LM337 and LM317 have different voltage Levels on the heatsink. before you Mount the LM3x7 to the heatsink it has
to be isolated !!! check the isaltion of the old Regulators that keeps on the heatsink not on the old Regulator !
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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby H4RR1S » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:51 pm

Hi guys,

I got the same problems with my desk. After a lot of searching and testing I can confirm all of the mentioned symptoms.
My PSUs located in the CPU are all fine, delivering +16V, -16V, +48V, +5V; I also get these voltages in the desk itself, all the fuses are fine (between FB8 and FB10 and so on). I checked a lot of voltages that are mentioned in the schematics and they all seem fine (+/-5% at least, I hope that's ok).
Just now I even soldered a cable between MGND and DGND as mentioned in other posts. Still no improvement on the situation.

The only thing I couldn't check was the 5V_REG on control board (IC 7805 U1 Pin 3). Which control board is this? Based on searches in the service manual and in the schematics I figured this should be 120a (control surface board) because that's the only one designating a 7805 by U1. How do I get to this board with the console running? It's above (or with the desk downwards facing below) the brainboard, covered by the big strut sheet holding the brain board. Do you have any tips on how to get to this board without fully disassembling the insides and having flying wires and a second person holding the brainboard with everything connected to not short anything?

thanks for your help!

munkustrap wrote:@p2h

you do not have to re-order. let me know when you want to have the probox.
I think the probox will not fix your Problems as the vpots do not react but Buttons are ok.
you will have the same issue on the probox. We Need to fix that first

regarding your problems, let me repeat it quick.

- Switches and Switch LEDS are working and react (good, Firmware works, communication works)
- vpost do not react. I think the leds work when you do it with the mouse but it don't when you trun the vpot
- faders dont move. you said, that you have the Feeling that the faders sometimes want to go more down. Do they move down when you place them in the middle before powering up the whole console?
- meterbride dont work (ist this true)?
- check VPOT Channel 1, VPOT Channel 13 and VPOT Speaker Volume. are all 3 not working when you turn them?

- i think your controlroom should work (Audio) when you control the vpot with mouse (if you can) please check that. Ist necessary to check if +16/-16V supply Domain is ok.

I had a look into the schematics.

I think you have a Problem with the 12V supply or the components that gets 5V out of tese 12V
- check DGND,AGND and MGND is connected !!!
here measure on the power distribution board (d8b console with the big round connector ) if you have contact (0 ohm) between J101 and J201 (do this with the CPU/PSU connected to the d8b console but everything powered OFF)
- check in the PSU/CPU the fuse for 12V
- check in the PSU/CPU the 12V connector (squared White connector with two yellow and two violett/purple cables
- check the connector from CPU powersupply to the power board (4 pol connector White with 2xblack/yellow/red cable)
- check your 12V supply with a scope or multimeter in the d8b console !
- if this is all OK check 5V_REG on control board (IC 7805 U1 Pin 3. If you do not have this the vopts do not work

let me know the outcome
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Re: Don't Want to be confused...

Postby munkustrap » Tue May 12, 2020 1:15 pm

Hi H4RR1S

I send you a message, please contact me via email that I left in the message
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