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d8b Midi Mapping in logic (template?)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:06 am
by tyler8wb
well i finally got around to getting a d8b and it should be here tomorrow. I was wondering if anybody has made a template of midi mapping for logic 9 because I would like to have full control over logic...well maybe just transport 24 faders and select and mute. If anybody could help me out that would be amazing :D

Re: d8b Midi Mapping in logic (template?)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:17 pm
by NigelC
Forget MIDI mapping, there is a discrepancy in the MIDI implementation and the D8B one uses 255 steps the other 256 steps, there is a note about this on the D8B forum.

I use the HUI layer (assuming you have D8B system 5.1) and this works great. I can adjust Pan, Fader, Mute, Solo, Aux, Insert etc. It took me a while to get to know it.

If you can live with the 8 channels at a time limitation (to access more you either use your pointer key and scroll down in the Logic Arrange window or use the Bank Left/Right buttons on the D8B).

To do this you have to
1. Connect your Mac and the D8B via MIDI In/Out
2. Switch on HUI in the D8B
3. Add a HUI controller in Logic (in Controller Setup)
4. In MIDI project settings assign the correct MIDI port for the D8B to receive MIDI Clock and MTC

There is a section in both Logic and D8B manuals on setting up a HUI controller.

Re: d8b Midi Mapping in logic (template?)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:21 pm
by tyler8wb
Ya thats what everyone says about the hui controller I just wanted to see if there is any way to get full control of the faders (all 24) thats basically what i need. But when I was purchasing I was looking at either the d8b or the tascam us2400 (cuz it had 25 flying faders) but the mackie seemed like the ultimate. Idk I guess ill just live with 8 channels for now

Re: d8b Midi Mapping in logic (template?)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:05 pm
by NigelC
If you only want to have the faders you could map these. Me personally am doing a hybrid. I am routing audio out of Logic via ADAT and using the Tape In Fader Bank.

Re: d8b Midi Mapping in logic (template?)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:06 pm
by NigelC
And dont think of it as 8 channels as its really easy and quick in Logic to scroll down and the D8B HUI updates as you go so theres no reason you cannot control as many channels as you like, just not all at once!

Re: d8b Midi Mapping in logic (template?)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:17 pm
by tyler8wb
so your not mixing itb but routing everything back into the board out of logic? Plz give me some of the names of the hardware to do this because that would be amazing. also how would i go forth mapping midi in logic?

Re: d8b Midi Mapping in logic (template?)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:48 pm
by NigelC
I am using an RME RayDat http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdspe_raydat.php cost me recently about £500 in UK and allows up to 32 channels of ADAT audio (I have a Mac Pro so its a PCIE card). If you have no on board MIDI I/O it adds this as well.

Obviously the trade off is that the D8B audio is limited to 44.1 or 48khz audio but I am not sure how big a deal that is anyway. I am not running Abbey Road so its good enough for me.

I am using Logic plugins on the audio and routing out of my Mac into the D8B. Not sure what your D8B has but mine has 3 OPT8 cards which are routed to the Tape I/O banks (the second fader layer). So I can route analogue I/O (such as keyboard modules) into the first fader layer.

I am not using the D8B for audio conversion, I am using a TC Impact Twin into my Mac as I only record 2 channels at a time and am using the interface for monitoring, taking a feed via SPDIF out from the D8B.