Not quitet the end Of the saga

[csp]

Dok,

Thanks for the comments and re the soldering, I have spent a lifetime with a soldering iron (currently have three of various wattages) and I would suggest that my lungs are fuller of solder smoke than the world's greatest chain smoker and what space is left is prpobably filled with fiberglass strands !!!!!!!

Problem with doing the plug is that I can see absolutely no way of breaking it fully down so that I can get to and identify the pins from the rear of the plug.

I have just spent about the past 2hrs stripping down as far as possible the plug and stripping the outer plastic cover and the earthing braid about 1/2" and cutting off the braid and fully inspecting the cable inside the plug to ge sure that all was intact, etc and then using electricians tape to bind everything and finally wrapping two layers of heat shrink as a wrapping on the outside (I also pushed the heat shrink up inside the plug to give better isolation), then very carefully replaced the holding clamps and finally re connected the plug to the rear of ther desk, ensuring that everything was tight. I still do not understand why the earth braid is not earthed at at least one end, because as it is, it is acting as a super RF aerial --- it should be earthed at the desk end in an audio situation.

I then powered up, spoke into the mic (OK) then with only one OPT-8 card in circuit (other two inserted but not light pipe connected to the desk), checking the clock on both the desk and HD24 and raising the faders on the Tape Bank, I hit Play on the desk, the recorder started, but there was no audio and no VU readings (the song has about a 7 sec silent intro, so no reading for that time period), but after about 20secs still nothing although the meters on the ND24 were operating normally and both the desk and Hd24 were counting in time sync.

Shutdown then rebooted and did this process this three times and each time the same --- no audio.

Then I decided to do something different. Shutdown and rebooted and checked the mic (OK). This time I continued to softly scratch the mic and after about 30 secs the VUs froze and the scratching audio ceased to be heard or seen on the desk and moinitor displays.

Then gave up and powered everything off.

If I really get bored during the week I will flip the desk (AGAIN !!!) and remove the base plate then see what happens on booting. If the desk works perfectly I will virtually give up because I will have absolutely no idea what the problem is !!!!!

David

[Phil.c]

Well, if it works again with the flip, it looks certain to be "something" to do with gravity?

[csp]

Phil,

Agreed !!!! BUT what part is being effected by gravity and why did it work perfectly until I inserted the TRS plugs into the Line Inputs and/or not power the desk for 24hrs !!!!!!!

Maybe I should start a new trend --- suspend consoles upside down from the control room ceiling, glue the speakers on the ceiling and bring in a bed and mix with the recording engineer laying on the bed ---- probably far more comfortable that some of the chairs that I have sat in when recording in some studios !!!!!

David

[Phil.c]

Just a shot in the dark.... if there is something in there like a loose screw, (probably not because of your last post) when you flip it again roll it over a few times on end?

[csp]

Phil,

Finally got around the blocked forum posting that has obviously been caused by the number of views (obviously a bot or something) but still waiting on a reply from Peter and what he can do to get rid of the views, so have just read your post.

I have been waiting to read it before flipping the desk. I will give that a try because anything could have happened to the desk before it was donated --- I would suggest that the bottom plate had been removed as there were a couple of screws missing (I have replaced these with some that I purchased) --- so it is quite possible that when someone has been inside the desk a screw was dropped --- it is quite easy to do as I have done it once but luckly could see the screw and got it out.

Hopefully doing as you state I might hear something and it might be dislodged to a location where I can see it to remove it.

It is just strange that the desk was working perfectly until I inserted the 12 TRS plugs and I am positive that I did not move the desk at all.

Yesterday I spent some time pulling the big plug apart again (as far as I could !!!) and fully checked it, even stripping the outer cover and braid back about 1/2" and cutting off the braid so that it was no where near any of the wires that were entering the plug. I then wrapped the cable very tightly in electrical tape and then wrapped that in two layers of heat shrink (I had to cut the heat shrink length wise as I could not feed it over the cable) and pushed this well up inside the plug. I then VERY firmly clamped the cable using the two cable cable clamps supplied.

Powered up tested the Mic (OK) but then at about 30 secs the desk froze. faders still worked on the desk and monitor, bank switching OK and faders responding, but no audio. This indicated to me a probable problem with the DSP card and the power ribbon going to it (as I read in the very early article on the desk and the DSP card and that ribbon cable where it caused audio to stop and the desk to freeze).

Wish me luck and hopefully Peter will read my email fairly soon and be able to solve the problem with me not being able to access the topic --- I am not sure if this is effecting others (like yourself) from gaining access, I might find out when I submit this reply !!!!!!!

David

[Phil.c]

I also have had problems with the thread but I get around it by clicking on the thread name which takes me to the first page, then click on the last page number 59, this works for me.

[csp]

Phil,

That is what I did today to access to the thread.

Something that is of interest, when I was trying to see if I could get assistance to remove the Views, I looked up phpBB (see bottom of any thread) as it appears it is their software that Peter has used. In my search I came across a notice (that I could easily have gotten completely wrong) but which suggested that all of their bulletin boards (of which ours appears to be one) will be ceasing to operate in a couple of months time --- it did give the date but I did not write it down.

Actually just looked it up ( phpBB Group Bulletinn Board ) and found the notice as below:

Hello, As of August 1st, 2024, we will no longer be providing support for phpBB 3.2.x. The support forums will be locked, but will be still be available in a read-only form for reference. All … read more

Not sure what that means but to me it doesn't sound good !!!!!

David

[doktor1360]

Phil,

That is what I did today to access to the thread.

Something that is of interest, when I was trying to see if I could get assistance to remove the Views, I looked up phpBB (see bottom of any thread) as it appears it is their software that Peter has used. In my search I came across a notice (that I could easily have gotten completely wrong) but which suggested that all of their bulletin boards (of which ours appears to be one) will be ceasing to operate in a couple of months time --- it did give the date but I did not write it down.

Actually just looked it up ( phpBB Group Bulletinn Board ) and found the notice as below:

Hello, As of August 1st, 2024, we will no longer be providing support for phpBB 3.2.x. The support forums will be locked, but will be still be available in a read-only form for reference. All … read more

Not sure what that means but to me it doesn't sound good !!!!!

David

The bulletin board software and database (MySQL) versioning used for this particular forum appears to be ancient based on appearance (it's an older looking graphical user interface). I can't even locate any specific versioning info here, and footer copyright indicates 2007 as the last copyright datestamp...

Until this issue is addressed by the site administrator(s), 'what you see is what you get'. and it ain't gon any get better until then...

[csp]

Dok,

That is the problem that I am having --- Peter doesn't seem to be watching the forum or possibly even reading his emails.

I am not sure if anyone else is getting the same message that I am getting, but it appears to me that the problem lies in the number of views (read 2nd line of error message below) where I am guessing that that line sets the maximum number of "topic views" and that number has been exceeded (illegially !!!):

General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]

Out of range value for column 'topic_views' at row 1 [1264]

An SQL error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact the Board Administrator if this problem persists.
Please notify the board administrator or webmaster: peter@sonido-7.com

AND unless that line can be altered or the views deleted, etc the problem will continue --- a real shame as I am currently at the point with this desk where I am clutching at straws and any assistance/ideas is greatly appreciated and not being able to possibly read them is a pain.

I have no idea what the situation is, but maybe we should see if Peter would be prepared to appoint at least one other person to have full administrator rights, because if anything should happen to Peter then the forum could be in big trouble if anything goes wrong --- I doubt if I would be able to be an admin person because of my complete knowledge of computer programming, etc.

David

[csp]

I realise that the following has been asked probably 100 times before, but over the past two years I have had so much information going through my head I simply can't think any more !!!

What causes the meters to come to full (or near full) on boot up and what is the solution?

This morning, before flipping the desk (again) I decided that I would give it one last try the correct way up to see what would happen, but on the six times I tried I got the display of all 24 meters at either full or near full. I even did a Factory Reset before shutting down on one try, but still the same on booting.

Is this another fault the desk has for some reason decided to introduce (???) and strangely, it was again after the desk had not been powered up for about 36hrs !!!!!

David